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SCO Claims Linux Lifted ELF

SCO Claims Linux Lifted ELF

SCO's two latest filings with the Utah district court hearing its $5 billion suit against IBM claim that SCO's Unix Executable and Linking Format (ELF) codes are in Linux illegally.

The charge was made by SCO VP of engineering Sandeep Gupta in a declaration that is currently under seal, but is quoted, albeit tersely, in the new filings.

If the ELF charge stands, SCO believes it would topple the whole Linux edifice.

ELF is like mortar to the operating system. Stripped out, all its applications would break. And, according to SCO spokesman Blake Stowell, it would not be something that the Linux community could simply rewrite, which is the Linux adherent's pat solution to SCO's infringement issues.

ELF is sorta like Microsoft's DLLs and was developed by AT&T's Unix System Labs as part of the Unix Application Binary Interface (ABI) before Unix was sold to Novell in 1993.

In 1995, the year Novell sold Unix to the Santa Cruz Operation, an industry group calling itself the Tool Interface Standard Committee (TISC) came up with a ELF 1.2 standard and to popularize it and streamline PC software development granted users a "non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license" to the stuff, effectively putting it in the public domain, SCO says.

SCOsource chief Chris Sontag, the SCO VP in charge of the company's hate-inducing IP push, claims TISC, which folded immediately after the spec was published, exceeded its rights even though both Novell and the old SCO - as well as Microsoft, IBM and Intel - were on the committee.

Sontag also says that any entities that ignore SCO's ELF copyrights are infringing. Such a claim is likely to put SCO on a war footing, if it isn't already, with the Free Software Foundation, whose GNU operating environment makes broad use of ELF.

The Free Software Foundation is also the creator of the GPL, the viral license that makes Linux so provocative. SCO calls the GPL "quicksand" and claims it's invalid. IBM's countersuit against SCO claims SCO breached the GPL so the GPL could be tested in the court for a second, possibly definitive, time.

Where SCO is going to go with ELF is still up in the air, according to Sontag. It's still early days in fleshing out all its claims, he said.

SCO also claims "substantial similarity" between the Read-Copy-Update (RCU) routine in Linux 2.6.5 and Linux patches and SCO's copyrighted work, specifically SVR4.2 MP.

It thinks that Unix SMP 4.2 System V initialization (init) code was copied into Linux 2.6, that there's "substantial similarity" between the user level synchronization (ULS) routines in Linux and Unix, that its Unix System V IPC code was copied into Linux 2.4.20 and that copyrighted Unix header and interfaces were copied into Linux.

It also says the journaled file system (JFS) module from later versions of AIX, which SCO believes may derive from the JFS Unix, is in Linux 2.6. - MOG

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Ioan Coman 01/21/05 04:53:45 AM EST

I am an BSD Lover,
but am sorry for Linux

Check this:
http://linux.quicksurf.com/index.php?p=1278
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/legalissues/sto...
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1752775,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K000...

Tim Wright 07/23/04 11:13:55 AM EDT

Hmmm... as Rob points out, my choice of language was rather poor. Yes, ELF is not strictly "derived" from COFF in that someone didn't just hack on the COFF code to produce ELF. However, the people responsible for the ELF format didn't start with a blank slate. They looked at COFF (and ECOFF etc. etc. etc.), worked out all the things that were wrong with it, then went and designed ELF. There are many things in common because they started with COFF as a baseline and to that extent, it is a derivative.

omg what FUD 07/23/04 07:09:43 AM EDT

As normal groklaw tells the real story.

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040722135616439

linux world appears to be a waste of webspace.

martin yazdzik 07/22/04 10:24:32 PM EDT

Irrespective of all other factors, the predecessor in interest to SCO was party to TISC, and therefore laches applies.

Does SCO have no lawyers on their legal staff, or do they hope for judicial ignorance?

The game of "you dumbass judges don't know shit about coding and operating systems and won't never find out nothing about what high tech does" is over.

Either the ELF claim is true, in which case, laches requires dismissal, or it is not true, in which case, cursory examination will result in a summary dismissal.

Any other possibility requires corruption or stupidity on a monumental level.

I believe that even in good old Bouvier's, which anyone with apt-get can install with no dependency conflicts, even in 2004, culpable liability is still spellt culpable liability. Perhaps someone should send someone a sarge install cd?

Or lawyers should learn to read?

Best,
M

Jan Schermer 07/22/04 09:04:54 AM EDT

As far a I know, SCO released it's own Linux distribution (Caldera Linux) in the past *UNDER THE GPL LICENCE*...
got the point? They obviously do not :)

Btw if they want some licence fees from anyone, they must first (successfuly) sue every Linux distributor - because they all release it under GPL and anybody can base his rights (according to GPL) on any single release.

If they come to me (not very likely), they will first have to prove invalidity of all Linux distributions licences. Very unlikely.

Rob Poole 07/21/04 11:10:33 PM EDT

Fred Down wrote: "I did not state that DLLs and shared libraries are the same. They are similar in function."
I never said that you stated DLLs and shared libraries are the same. They are virtually identical in function, in fact. I was the one who equated the two. Any distinction between the two is, for the purposes of this discussion, hair splitting. The primary difference is that DLLs are specific to Windows, and "shared libraries" as I use the term, is rather generic. You seem to believe that the term "shared library" or "shared runtime library" is somehow specific to the UNIX/Linux world. Fine, whatever. DLL stands for Dynamic Link Library, and as such, means pretty much the same thing as "shared runtime library" or "shared library."

And yes, thank you, I've done Java programming for many years, and know full well that JNI is implemented with DLLs in the Windows world, and with shared libraries elsewhere. That's because these two mechanisms serve the same basic function, and therefore, Sun chose to use the mechanism appropriate to the target platform. Nothing new or exciting here.

I really don't care that your knowledge of ELF comes from practical experience. You said yourself that ELF was developed in part to address shortcomings of COFF, as a replacement for COFF. That would imply that ELF is legitimately a successor technology. I realize that you took exception to someone stating that ELF was derived from COFF; that would be similar to claiming that PNG is derived from GIF, which is untrue (although PNG was developed to replace GIF and improve upon it simultaneously -- I'm one of the PNG spec authors). So I understand your point, but you could have expressed it better -- and you could also acknowledge that, in part, the comment that you were taking exception to wasn't entirely off base in concept. ELF looks like PE, and both ELF and PE/PEF resemble COFF. There are no new ideas here.

"This detracts from my point that SCO by claiming ELF can seriously damage the Open Source."
It took me several read-throughs before I understood your meaning. A couple commas would help your sentence be more comprehensible. It should read "...SCO, by claiming ELF, can seriously damage..."

Your point is well taken. But that damage can only take place if SCO's claim can be substantiated, and that is far from a foregone conclusion.

"I find it strange that you find 'sorta' so upsetting but not comments like [...]"
I find "sorta" upsetting because professional journalists are not supposed to use such language in published news articles. I hold the journalist to a higher standard than the typical geek who posts a comment such as the one you cited. Your objection to the potty humor inherent in that comment is duly noted; however, the person who wrote that comment, while immature, was making a valid point. One easy way to detect bullsh*t and deflate specious arguments is to take someone's argument and substitute some nouns, and see if the same line of reasoning holds. In this case, the choice was crude -- someone chose to use feces in place of source code. The analogy is crude, and doesn't necessarily hold, but it does serve to point up the idiocy of SCO's claims by lampooning them in such an outrageous manner.

Eric Youngdale 07/21/04 04:45:25 PM EDT

Someone at SCO must be sniffing glue.

Merlyn 07/21/04 04:20:47 PM EDT

Microsoft scares me much more than SCO. I think the comments on http://www.cto-corner.com/pages/1/index.htm are a bit closer to the mark than any of us want to believe. MS eventually will patnent breathing, then what do we do?

Merlyn 07/21/04 04:16:38 PM EDT

I'm not as afraid of SCO as I am of Microsoft. I believe IBM, Novell and the community at large can handle SCO, but Microsoft is scary. Read the article at http://www.cto-corner.com/pages/1/index.htm. I think this guy is right on, Microsoft will patent breathing, then what do we do?

Fred Down 07/21/04 01:58:22 PM EDT

ELF was designed to replace COFF and COFFs various extended formats. One of the shortcomings of COFF was that there was no standard shared library mechanism. AIX at least AIX 4.3 still uses COFF (somewhat extended) and its shared libraries are therefore non standard. ELF addressed many other limitations of COFF.

I did not state that DLLs and shared libraries are the same. They are similar in function.

To illustrate what I mean. Java uses DLLs in Windows to implement JNI whereas on Solaris, Linux and various flavours of UNIX shared libraries are used.

My knowledge of ELF comes does not come from 'reading several technical articles’. It comes from converting COFF tools to work with both ELF and COFF formats. My source of information was Mary Lou Nohr Understanding ELF Object Files and Debugging Tools.

This detracts from my point that SCO by claiming ELF can seriously damage the Open Source.

I find it strange that you find 'sorta' so upsetting but not comments like "
All fecal releases I have seen are *substantially similar* to my fecal releases. I claim the shape/form/ip of all fecal releases as my own.
I demand that all SCO persons either pay me to crap , or STOP!"
But then I am not an English major.

Before anyone gets too excited I should declare that I had an aricle published in a magazine owned by IDG. I really have not received any payments from Microsoft.

Abigail Hergensheimer 07/21/04 01:11:16 PM EDT

Fred Down commented on 21 July 2004:

> SCO has a very powerful legal team which may be more relevant than the strength of its technical arguments.

SCO has a legal team with a powerful NAME. The actual quality of the legal work appears to be quite limited, with conflicting assertions in different courts and at different times. The IBM legal team has also engaged in some stiletto humor, clarifying the order of SCO's misnumbered pleading paragraphs, and offering other editorial "help".

It would really be quite funny if the whole thing weren't such an ugly demonstration of the problems with US civil litigation.

Uno Engborg 07/21/04 12:08:28 PM EDT

This type of anouncements doesn't seam to work anymore.
There are too many people that know the history to contradict them, and contradict them fast with high level of credibility.

A year ago this kind of story would have been cited all around the net and pumped the SCO stock to astronomic levels. Now, not even grooklaw that specializes in reporting from the SCO case mentions this sory and the SCO stock in almost free fall.

If you have a disposition for conspiracy theory, you could almost believe that people from the open source community publishes articles like this where they claim that SCO claims they own technology that is clearly not theirs, and by doing so reducing whatever little credibility SCO may have left.

Rob Poole 07/21/04 11:17:31 AM EDT

Fred Down wrote: "The case against SCO is not helped by childish ranting nor by berating journalists who do not write what you want to read."

Sir, it is not that people are berating the "journalist" in this case for writing what they do not want to read. It is that this "journalist" did little or no fact checking, obviously has a poor understanding of the technical matters at hand, and clearly slanted the article in SCO's favor. This is far from un-biased reporting of facts. Furthermore, the "journalist" who wrote this article did not adhere to standards and practices for journalism, such as the use of proper grammar and diction. "Sorta," for example, is considered unacceptable in professional discourse.

As to slanted writing, one need look no further than the mention of the GPL as a "viral" license (something that no self-respecting Linux publication should do, since Linux relies upon the GPL heavily; sadly, since Microsoft now owns the parent company of LinuxWorld, this sort of nonsense is expected). It's also clear from other word and grammar choices that the author clearly accepts SCO's claims at face value, not as the untested assertions they are. This is bias. While some bias is unavoidable in journalism, bias this blatant should be avoided. I don't think it's childish to demand better of a professional journalist.

Rob Poole 07/21/04 11:03:55 AM EDT

Regarding Fred Down's comments, I have two rebutting observations:

(1) The comparison between ELF and Microsoft's DLL's is in fact not valid at all, and if you had a grasp of basic deductive logic you'd realize this. Yes, ELF specifies "amongst other things" a standard mechanism for shared libraries. However, ELF's primary function (and this is the key) is to provide a format for binary executables in Linux. DLL's in Windows serve a single, very different function: they solely provide a binary format for shared libraries, and specify a mechanism for loading them at runtime.

In this regard, ELF more correctly maps onto COFF in Windows and a.out in the UNIX/Linux world, not to mention PEF (which I think was mainly a Mac thing). I very much remember the transition from a.out binaries to ELF binaries in Linux, incidentally. ELF may specify a mechanism for loading shared runtime libraries, but its functionality is a superset of the DLL mechanism in Windows, because ELF does so much more.

(2) You claim that ELF is not derived from COFF. Well, what you claim flies in the face of several technical articles that I've read regarding ELF. I'm willing to concede that the ELF implementation does not derive from any COFF-related source code. I'm also willing to concede that the ELF specification may not directly reference the COFF specification (something I can't check at the moment). But it's pretty well established that there are substantial similarities between ELF, COFF, and for that matter, PEF. The core underlying ideas were borrowed freely, as they should be -- why reinvent the wheel?

Mr. Down may earn his living developing for Linux, but he's not the only one. I don't do any kernel hacking these days, but I still write code professionally.

Fred Down 07/21/04 10:53:05 AM EDT

This ELF thing would be very serious, Linux depends heavily on shared libaries, back in the a.out days this was not true. If ELF had to be removed virtually all applications written since the a.out day would break.

More seriously ELF is used by BSD. I beleive it would not have been around when USL and BSD came to their settlement.

If SCO can stop both BSD and Linux then open source will suffer greatly.

My contingency plan should Linux be blocked was to switch to BSD.

SCO has a very powerful legal team which may be more relevant than the strength of its technical arguments.

The case against SCO is not helped by childish ranting nor by berating journalists who do not write what you want to read.

Ivor B. One 07/21/04 10:19:10 AM EDT

Seems like Linuxworld want technology editors. Time for some real linux advocacy on a psudo-linux site....

http://www.sys-con.com/careers/editor.cfm

Paul J R 07/21/04 09:55:08 AM EDT

Hey, linux moved to ELF from COFF (i think it was COFF), we can move again if need be!

Seems a bit rediculous though as the move to ELF came a long long time ago, surely thats going to make it pretty hard to prove a case based on ELF...

But, of course, my linux history knowledge is a little lacking on the ELF front, all i remember is the first time i compiled something as a shared object... that was a long long while ago

eric w 07/21/04 09:35:40 AM EDT

Matt T: Re: [IBM should just buy SCO and dissolve them.]

This was actually SCO's plan from day one... they wanted to be bought, esentially being paid to shut up, and the management gets a nice golden parachute... from which they float down into another company and do the same thing. If you read up on groklaw, you'll see that people such as Darl mcBride, Rob Enderle, etc. see lawsuits, frivolous claims, etc. as simply doing business.

By telling SCO to basically shove it, IBM immediately added legitimacy to the GPL, Linux, etc. You can bet that 90% of the media (read: SCO and Microsoft's mouthpiece) would have spun it as "Linux has IP issues, IBM pays off company to silence credible claims..." you get the idea. The idea of this is to silence this crap the first time around.

Oh yeah, and you don't threaten a company like IBM. They're 1) Huge, 2) Have enormous resources, and 3) possess a rabid army of lawyers. Don't forget...this company went through a large ordeal with the US government years ago.

Just my $0.02

Gogs 07/21/04 09:20:34 AM EDT

Oh for goodness' sake! There's no doubt that SCO's latest legal move is complete and utter nonsense, and fully deserving of all the invective it receives. The journalist that wrote the article however, is only guilty of not explaining things in a sufficiently technically accurate manner.

It seems these days that anyone who even WRITES about SCO gets the same amount of abuse as the company itself.

Focus people... FOCUS!!!!

fikus 07/21/04 08:30:16 AM EDT

everything can be replaced! code in linux can be replaced
by another code! SCO can be replaced by arsehole!

asdf 07/21/04 08:11:02 AM EDT

After reading that astonishly badly written, biased and obviously little-researched article, I was about to post regarding the completely unprofessional use of "sorta" and "the stuff". Then I saw that I wasn't the only one. Shame on your linuxworld for publishing this horrendous piece of "reporting"

Peter Simpson 07/21/04 07:44:36 AM EDT

A quick look at the standard in question at
(http://www.x86.org/ftp/manuals/tools/elf.pdf) reveals that:

1. Both Novell and The Santa Cruz Operation (old SCO) were members of the committee that wrote the standard.

2. "The TIS Committee grants...a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to use the information disclosed in this Specification to make your software TIS-compliant..."

bioh 07/21/04 07:12:12 AM EDT

total garbage, first time reading an article on this site, and the last.

Zim Zalabim 07/21/04 05:57:43 AM EDT

M$ does own this site, I've even seen banner adds for visual studio .NET! on this site, so there you have it.

Linux world is just a FUD propaganda machine for M$

Gary Kemp 07/21/04 05:48:28 AM EDT

Matt T commented on 20 July 2004:
> IBM should just buy SCO and dissolve the company.
So that the next nuisance lawsuit can crop up?
No, SCO must be killed through the courts,
that would create a solid barrier against more
anti Linux lawsuits.
In addition, it would kill a lot of FUD out there.

Ajay Sinai Cuncoliencar 07/21/04 05:36:09 AM EDT

Sco is just trying to "create " IP infringements out of thin air .. now that its clear that nothing is going to harm the GPL movement. It looks like these are the last groans of a dying animal called SCO

hagarke 07/21/04 04:27:19 AM EDT

It's the time of the year .... everybody has to announce their numbers for the stock market.

SCO is just pumping them a bit for two weeks, then they can go back to their little nest and think of a new strategy to enervate then Linux community.

Give them a week, it'll pass away ....

Andy 07/21/04 01:33:03 AM EDT

Could just be a coincidence, but, as of right now, http://www.caldera.com/support/docs/openlinux/1.3/english/intro.html is giving a document not found. Google cache and archive.org have copies, though. :) *Save*

*Snip*
>their "succssors in interest" have been releasing ELF >support under the GPL for years: From >http://www.caldera.com/support/docs/openlinux/1.3/english/i>ntro.html
>"OpenLinux includes support for libc5, ELF, and a.out >binary formats."

Randall 07/20/04 11:33:50 PM EDT

Hmmmm... that's interesting. As pointed out in the link below, (which has a link to the published ELF specification dated MAY 1995, as well as a link to the Asset Purchase Agreement which wasn't signed until SEPTEMBER 1995.) OldSCO hadn't even bought ANYTHING from Novell yet, so how could NewSCO claim ELF at all? Evidently the "author" of this "article" did't even bother to do any fact checking, just regurgitated a steaming pile of lies. Nice work.

http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20040712104852353&ti...

jon 07/20/04 10:35:47 PM EDT

SCO makes me feel ashamed to live in Utah.

Stretch Cannon 07/20/04 10:29:48 PM EDT

Ummm, isn't linuxworld completely ignorable now because it's owned by IDG, a shameless paid Microsoft shill that doesn't really care much about facts or journalism because they are paid hacks? That was my understanding. Why are you all wasting your time here? There are real news sites out there.

Fred Down 07/20/04 10:22:31 PM EDT

I did some of the Elf work in SCO (the old one) Open Server.
I have 2 factual observations.

1 The comparison between ELF and Microsoft DLLs is quite valid. Elf defines amongst other things a standard mechanism for shared libraries. Shared libaries map closely onto DLLs

2 ELF is NOT derived from COFF. They are very different.

I earn my living developing on Linux, and have done for the last 7 years. I have found most of the comments on this discussion to be childish and would appear to be the work of wannabees who most likely have not written a line of professional code.

Matt T 07/20/04 10:16:56 PM EDT

IBM should just buy SCO and dissolve the company.

Andy Hoffman 07/20/04 09:59:15 PM EDT

Will someone PLEASE put a stop to SCO
these folks spend more time dreaming up ways to
hurt the FREE SOFTWARE FOUNDATION then they do
on creating new products. It is time for SCO to go
I hear there are several ways to build fertilizer
bombs. will somebody please park one of those vans
in the SCO parking lot so that this can all be done!!

Artiste Terroriste 07/20/04 09:52:37 PM EDT

Linuxworld,

Um... so this is why SCO has effectively told the Utah court, in filings you've obviously ignored....

1. SCO can't prove copyright infringement in Linux and thus can not refute IBM's 10th Counter Claim (IBM's use of Linux does not infringe... etc..). I'll let you look it up.

2. See 1, therefore they are requesting more discovery.

SCO had no TRUE allegations since day one, they don't know. All they had was a MS bankroll.

b4ses 07/20/04 09:31:45 PM EDT

just a comment

b4ses 07/20/04 09:31:03 PM EDT

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Riddler 07/20/04 09:03:15 PM EDT

hmmmmmmm.... i dont know if i should cry or laugh. Is SCO out of business or the just dont know what to do with their time? They must be crazy. I still dont understand what was going through their minds. I think they enjoy wasting time and resources. They forget linux plays a major role in todays industry and so its not going to be easy get away with this crab they are trying to put up..............

Joe 07/20/04 08:55:48 PM EDT

Have you heard of RESEARCH? Perhaps you should do some before exposing us this type of crap.

Bill Fuller 07/20/04 08:53:42 PM EDT

This article is as lame and poorly written as SCO's legal documents. If you would bother to read more than SCO's self-serving press releases, you would notice they are trying like hell to avoid any mention of copyrights, and trying to change their stories in the different courts at every turn. Look for their first major butt-kicking tomorrow (7/20/04) when Daimler-Chrysler hands them their head in the hearing.

bullshit detector 07/20/04 08:46:09 PM EDT

This analogy between a virus and the GPL is completely false. A virus whether a computer virus or biological does not ask its host for consent when it invades. If a software developer includes a GPL'd work in their product, they are required to use a GPL compatible license. If they not do want to do so, then they can simply not incorporate the GPL'd work.
This issue of consent is the crucial difference.

Matt Easton 07/20/04 08:07:57 PM EDT

The GPL is just a license. If I run Windows 2000 Server, Microsoft wants my money. If I run Samba, the samba developers want to be sure that changes to samba that I make AND DISTRIBUTE will be available to improve samba. That's great for me, my colleagues down the street and also for my competitors who may be using samba. It's as though the samba developers aren't content to just give away great software-- they want to give me better software later. Is that what you mean by "viral"?

Dave Null 07/20/04 08:07:27 PM EDT

The TIS Committee grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to use the information disclosed in this Specification
to make your software TIS-compliant; no other license, express or implied, is granted or intended hereby.
The TIS Committee makes no warranty for the use of this standard.
THE TIS COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS AND IMPLIED, AND ALL LIABILITY, INCLUDING
CONSEQUENTIAL AND OTHER INDIRECT DAMAGES, FOR THE USE OF THESE SPECIFICATION AND THE INFORMATION
CONTAINED IN IT, INCLUDING LIABILITY FOR INFRINGEMENT OF ANY PROPRIETARY RIGHTS. THE TIS COMMITTEE
DOES NOT ASSUME ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY ERRORS THAT MAY APPEAR IN THE SPECIFICATION, NOR ANY
RESPONSIBILITY TO UPDATE THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THEM.
The TIS Committee retains the right to make changes to this specification at any time without notice.
IBM is a registered trademark and OS/2 is a trademark of International Business Machines Corporation.
The Intel logo is a registered trademark and i386 and Intel386 are trademarks of Intel Corporation and may be used only to identify
Intel products.
Microsoft, Microsoft C, MS, MS-DOS, Windows, and XENIX are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation.
Phoenix is a registered trademark of Phoenix Technologies, Ltd.
UNIX is a registered trademark in the United States and other countries, licensed exclusively through X/Open Company Limited.
* Other brands and names are the property of their respective owners.

Dreff PhD 07/20/04 08:05:23 PM EDT

I think that SCO is yet again talking out /dev/null. I guess they can, they own it... or so they claim.

JFS comes from OS/2 not AIX and even if it did, you can't taint IBM's invention of JFS by compiling it for UNIX.

ELF and ABI have already been shown to be untainted IIRC.

"viral" need only be applied to proprietary licences. If you see Microsoft's Shared Source you are tainted and any work you produce from that point forward is a potential theft of Microsoft's IP.

I'm just waiting for the day my eyes, when used in conjunction with my brain are considred a potentialli infringing technology. When coupled with my hands and my mouth they certainly are.

Cliff Williams 07/20/04 08:02:12 PM EDT

They are right you know. SCO did create it and Linux stole it. That's not all either. Linux stole the idea of executing code on x86 processors from SCO. Oh let's not forget using RAM, SCO had that one first too. As a matter of fact the hole idea of Linux is just a rip-off of SCO concepts and IP.. keyboards, monitors, harddrives, charachter devices... where will it stop?

ms lover 07/20/04 07:49:49 PM EDT

Hmmm, didnt groklaw do all the reports on the sco vs ibm case ?

also i thought journalism was supposed to be objective, so using "viral license" seems to me a subjective thing.

Stephen 07/20/04 06:42:38 PM EDT

Is it me or has Microsoft paid another person/company to do their bidding. The article makes any person that doesn't know enough about Linux or Unix believe that Linux is infringing upon SCO IP. Also the author of this article needs to go back to school. The wording of various sentances, the slanted view of the article and the odd words that are used (like "sorta") makes one bad article.

myql 07/20/04 06:37:08 PM EDT

All fecal releases I have seen are *substantially similar* to my fecal releases. I claim the shape/form/ip of all fecal releases as my own.
I demand that all SCO persons either pay me to crap , or STOP!

Doug Webb 07/20/04 06:20:05 PM EDT

Maureen O'Gara clearly has a tenuous grasp of computer technology amd zero understanding of copyright law. She also clearly does not check facts or statements for their veracity. In short, her drivel is not worth reading.

rand 07/20/04 06:18:35 PM EDT

SCO is/has been well aware of ELF in Linux: theyand their "succssors in interest" have been releasing ELF support under the GPL for years:
From http://www.caldera.com/support/docs/openlinux/1.3/english/intro.html
"OpenLinux includes support for libc5, ELF, and a.out binary formats."

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GENBAND has announced that SageNet is leveraging the Nuvia platform to deliver Unified Communications as a Service (UCaaS) to its large base of retail and enterprise customers. Nuvia’s cloud-based solution provides SageNet’s customers with a full suite of business communications and collaboration tools. Two large national SageNet retail customers have recently signed up to deploy the Nuvia platform and the company will continue to sell the service to new and existing customers. Nuvia’s capabilities include HD voice, video, multimedia messaging, mobility, conferencing, Web collaboration, deskt...
Wearable technology was dominant at this year’s International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) , and MWC was no exception to this trend. New versions of favorites, such as the Samsung Gear (three new products were released: the Gear 2, the Gear 2 Neo and the Gear Fit), shared the limelight with new wearables like Pebble Time Steel (the new premium version of the company’s previously released smartwatch) and the LG Watch Urbane. The most dramatic difference at MWC was an emphasis on presenting wearables as fashion accessories and moving away from the original clunky technology associated with t...
The WebRTC Summit 2014 New York, to be held June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York, NY, announces that its Call for Papers is open. Topics include all aspects of improving IT delivery by eliminating waste through automated business models leveraging cloud technologies. WebRTC Summit is co-located with 16th International Cloud Expo, @ThingsExpo, Big Data Expo, and DevOps Summit.
SYS-CON Events announced today that Cisco, the worldwide leader in IT that transforms how people connect, communicate and collaborate, has been named “Gold Sponsor” of SYS-CON's 16th International Cloud Expo®, which will take place on June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York City, NY. Cisco makes amazing things happen by connecting the unconnected. Cisco has shaped the future of the Internet by becoming the worldwide leader in transforming how people connect, communicate and collaborate. Cisco and our partners are building the platform for the Internet of Everything by connecting the...
15th Cloud Expo, which took place Nov. 4-6, 2014, at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, CA, expanded the conference content of @ThingsExpo, Big Data Expo, and DevOps Summit to include two developer events. IBM held a Bluemix Developer Playground on November 5 and ElasticBox held a Hackathon on November 6. Both events took place on the expo floor. The Bluemix Developer Playground, for developers of all levels, highlighted the ease of use of Bluemix, its services and functionality and provide short-term introductory projects that developers can complete between sessions.
Temasys has announced senior management additions to its team. Joining are David Holloway as Vice President of Commercial and Nadine Yap as Vice President of Product. Over the past 12 months Temasys has doubled in size as it adds new customers and expands the development of its Skylink platform. Skylink leads the charge to move WebRTC, traditionally seen as a desktop, browser based technology, to become a ubiquitous web communications technology on web and mobile, as well as Internet of Things compatible devices.
SYS-CON Events announced today that robomq.io will exhibit at SYS-CON's @ThingsExpo, which will take place on June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York City, NY. robomq.io is an interoperable and composable platform that connects any device to any application. It helps systems integrators and the solution providers build new and innovative products and service for industries requiring monitoring or intelligence from devices and sensors.
The list of ‘new paradigm’ technologies that now surrounds us appears to be at an all time high. From cloud computing and Big Data analytics to Bring Your Own Device (BYOD) and the Internet of Things (IoT), today we have to deal with what the industry likes to call ‘paradigm shifts’ at every level of IT. This is disruption; of course, we understand that – change is almost always disruptive.
WebRTC is an up-and-coming standard that enables real-time voice and video to be directly embedded into browsers making the browser a primary user interface for communications and collaboration. WebRTC runs in a number of browsers today and is currently supported in over a billion installed browsers globally, across a range of platform OS and devices. Today, organizations that choose to deploy WebRTC applications and use a host machine that supports audio through USB or Bluetooth can use Plantronics products to connect and transit or receive the audio associated with the WebRTC session.
Docker is an excellent platform for organizations interested in running microservices. It offers portability and consistency between development and production environments, quick provisioning times, and a simple way to isolate services. In his session at DevOps Summit at 16th Cloud Expo, Shannon Williams, co-founder of Rancher Labs, will walk through these and other benefits of using Docker to run microservices, and provide an overview of RancherOS, a minimalist distribution of Linux designed expressly to run Docker. He will also discuss Rancher, an orchestration and service discovery platf...
Sonus Networks introduced the Sonus WebRTC Services Solution, a virtualized Web Real-Time Communications (WebRTC) offer, purpose-built for the Cloud. The WebRTC Services Solution provides signaling from WebRTC-to-WebRTC applications and interworking from WebRTC-to-Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), delivering advanced real-time communications capabilities on mobile applications and on websites, which are accessible via a browser.
SYS-CON Events announced today that Aria Systems, the leading innovator in recurring revenue, has been named “Bronze Sponsor” of SYS-CON's @ThingsExpo, which will take place on June 9–11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York, NY. Proven by the world’s most demanding enterprises, including AAA NCNU, Constant Contact, Falck, Hootsuite, Pitney Bowes, Telekom Denmark, and VMware, Aria helps enterprises grow their recurring revenue businesses. With Aria’s end-to-end active monetization platform, global brands can get to market faster with a wider variety of products and services, while maximizin...
SYS-CON Media announced today that @WebRTCSummit Blog, the largest WebRTC resource in the world, has been launched. @WebRTCSummit Blog offers top articles, news stories, and blog posts from the world's well-known experts and guarantees better exposure for its authors than any other publication. @WebRTCSummit Blog can be bookmarked ▸ Here @WebRTCSummit conference site can be bookmarked ▸ Here
SYS-CON Events announced today that Alert Logic, the leading provider of Security-as-a-Service solutions for the cloud, has been named “Bronze Sponsor” of SYS-CON's 16th International Cloud Expo® and DevOps Summit 2015 New York, which will take place June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York City, NY, and the 17th International Cloud Expo® and DevOps Summit 2015 Silicon Valley, which will take place November 3–5, 2015, at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, CA.
SYS-CON Events announced today that Vitria Technology, Inc. will exhibit at SYS-CON’s @ThingsExpo, which will take place on June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York City, NY. Vitria will showcase the company’s new IoT Analytics Platform through live demonstrations at booth #330. Vitria’s IoT Analytics Platform, fully integrated and powered by an operational intelligence engine, enables customers to rapidly build and operationalize advanced analytics to deliver timely business outcomes for use cases across the industrial, enterprise, and consumer segments.
SYS-CON Events announced today that Solgenia will exhibit at SYS-CON's 16th International Cloud Expo®, which will take place on June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York City, NY, and the 17th International Cloud Expo®, which will take place on November 3–5, 2015, at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, CA. Solgenia is the global market leader in Cloud Collaboration and Cloud Infrastructure software solutions. Designed to “Bridge the Gap” between Personal and Professional Social, Mobile and Cloud user experiences, our solutions help large and medium-sized organizations dr...
SYS-CON Events announced today that Liaison Technologies, a leading provider of data management and integration cloud services and solutions, has been named "Silver Sponsor" of SYS-CON's 16th International Cloud Expo®, which will take place on June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York, NY. Liaison Technologies is a recognized market leader in providing cloud-enabled data integration and data management solutions to break down complex information barriers, enabling enterprises to make smarter decisions, faster.
Connected devices and the Internet of Things are getting significant momentum in 2014. In his session at Internet of @ThingsExpo, Jim Hunter, Chief Scientist & Technology Evangelist at Greenwave Systems, examined three key elements that together will drive mass adoption of the IoT before the end of 2015. The first element is the recent advent of robust open source protocols (like AllJoyn and WebRTC) that facilitate M2M communication. The second is broad availability of flexible, cost-effective storage designed to handle the massive surge in back-end data in a world where timely analytics is e...
SYS-CON Events announced today that Akana, formerly SOA Software, has been named “Bronze Sponsor” of SYS-CON's 16th International Cloud Expo® New York, which will take place June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York City, NY. Akana’s comprehensive suite of API Management, API Security, Integrated SOA Governance, and Cloud Integration solutions helps businesses accelerate digital transformation by securely extending their reach across multiple channels – mobile, cloud and Internet of Things. Akana enables enterprises to share data as APIs, connect and integrate applications, drive part...